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Leupold DeltaPoint Reflex Sight (All Mounts) 7.5 MOA Delta

Leupold DeltaPoint Reflex Sight (All Mounts) 7.5 MOA Delta
Brand: Leupold
Category: Sports

List Price: $565.00
Buy New: $432.01
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New (3) Used (1) from $409.99

Seller: Amazon.com
Rating: 3.0 out of 5 stars 2 reviews
Sales Rank: 82931

Color: Matte
Autographed: No
Memorabilia: No
Shipping Weight (lbs): 0.6
Dimensions (in): 6.8 x 4.4 x 2

MPN: 65930
Model: 65930
UPC: 030317659301
EAN: 0030317659301
ASIN: B003IT9CG8

Release Date: May 25, 2010
Shipping: Eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping
Availability: Usually ships in 24 hours

Features:
  • 1.6"
  • 1x
  • .63 oz Matte Black 2032 3V Lithium
  • Unlimited

Editorial Reviews:

Product Description
Leupold DeltaPoint Sight Matte 7.5 MOA Delta All Mounts 65930


Customer Reviews:
3 out of 5 stars Delta point pros and cons   August 14, 2010
James O'Hare
4 out of 4 found this review helpful

I was prepared to love this device but I've had to curb my enthusiasm. I've got the 3.5 MOA dot model with a cross-slot mount on my Ruger MKIII.

First the good news:

- The sight is extremely light, but very solidly and robustly built.
- The lens is completely clear, none of that greenish or yellowish cast that some red dots have.
- It turns off by itself after five minutes of inactivity, but springs instantly to life when you pick it up.
- The intensity of the dot varies according to light conditions, though I have yet to notice much difference
- Settings are retained by a pair of set screws, so they presumably will not change due to recoil and handling.

Now the less good news:

- Elevation and windage are adjusted by turning tiny little screws (wrench provided.) The recesses are so shallow it's often difficult to tell when the wrench has purchase.
- There are no adjustment clicks. You have to eyeball the adjustment using the little lines radiating away from the screw recesses. Since each line moves the dot 7.5 MOA, it is difficult to adjust it precisely and easy to overcompensate. A further difficulty is that the screws provide very little resistance and you sometimes can't tell if the wrench is gripping, as noted above.
- The set screws, though theoretically an advantage, have to be loosened then tightened after each adjustment, which makes for a pretty tedious sight in procedure.

At 25 yds the 3.5 MOA dot basically covers the 10 ring of a 5" target. Using a pistol rest I carefully fired 3-shot groups, then adjusted the sight accordingly. Several times I thought I had it nearly zeroed, but found after adjusting the windage or elevation the other parameter mysteriously changed too. (At this point you may suspect the gun, the ammo or the shooter. All I can say is with the same setup and the $18 Chinese knock off I was replacing I could easily punch out the 10 ring all day.) When it seemed like I was getting close I switched to 3" Shoot 'n C targets (for quicker feedback) and 5-shot groups. I could not consistently get all five shots on target, or even on the same place on the target. The 3.5 MOA dot is a bit large for great precision, but I expected at least two inch groups. After two sessions of an hour or more each I managed to burn through 300 rounds of ammunition and am still not satisfied the the accuracy or consistency of the results. (I hate to think of doing this with center fire ammo.)

Despite these poor results I haven't quite given up on the sight. I'm going to contact Leupold and see if they have any suggestions. I did wonder if it was necessary, as I have been doing, to loosen both set screws when adjusting just windage or elevation. Could the other dial go out of adjustment by itself? Seems unlikely, but maybe possible. The scanty manual provided is silent on this point.

Overall, this would be a perfect red dot sight for many purposes if it can be accurately and permanently zeroed. I would recommend anyone interested in it to proceed cautiously.



3 out of 5 stars Sent mine back   July 30, 2010
F.M. (Northern Idaho)
5 out of 5 found this review helpful

I'm retired law enforcement and was looking for a clearer sight picture than I am getting with std iron sights on my pistols. I chose Leupold for its known quality as I have Leupold optics on a sniper rifle and a CQ/T on a black rifle.

I ordered the 7.5 moa all mount sight to put on a Glock 35. I chose the 7.5 sight with the idea of using the top of the triangle (Greek sign for delta, hence the name)as a precise point of impact. The whole 7.5 MOA triangle would provide an easy to acquire rapid fire aim point.

Ordering from Amazon was easy and delivery was quick. The small package arrived with bases for several different kinds of semi autos, a S&W revolver base and a Pic rail base. Both the box and the instructions say that a CR2032 battery is included but it was not. No big deal, $5 buys a package of two at most grocery, hardware, or Radio Shacks.

There are 8 parts: 1) a dovetail base that fits into your slide; 2) a sight base which fits over the dove tail, conforms to the shape of your slide, and forms the bottom of the delta sight; 3) CR2032 battery which fits under the sight; 4) the sight; 5) a rubber cover for use when the sight is not in use; 6)two torx head screws to attach the sight; and 7)a torx wrench for installation; 8) a smaller torx wrench for adjusting the windage and elevation.

The Delta Point works like this:

A. You have to remove the rear sight from your pistol's slide dovetail (semi-autos). Unless you want to destroy your old dovetail sight, you should use a sight pusher tool to remove the old sight or have a gunsmith do it. Very easy to do, I'm not a gunsmith but have attended several LE armorer schools.

B. Insert the Delta sight's dovetail base (individually numbered for your specific weapon);

C. Lay the similarly numbered sight base over the dovetail. Again, the sight base conforms to the contour of the top of the slide and holds the battery in place by acting as the bottom of the entire sight.

D. Insert the battery UNDER the sight and place the sight on top of the sight base.

E. Two torx head screws are run down into the top of the sight, through the sight base, through the dovetail sight base at a recommended 14 inch pounds of force. In lieu of a torque driver, use the torx allen style wrench provided. You're done.

I only went to step B.

At first glance, I was NOT happy that the battery went into the bottom of the sight because it means that the sight has to be removed from the weapon to replace the battery. I could not find any factory comments on how long the battery was expected to last. OK, I could maybe live with that as I expect that all reflex sights are made this way because of their small size.

The DEFINING moment for me was when I discovered that the dovetail base did not fit tight in the slide dovetail. I expected that I would need the sight pusher to install the dovetail base so that it was solid in the slide like the original rear sight. NOT SO! The base just slides into the dovetail and is free to move about. It is supposedly held in place by the tension of the two torx screws pushing through the sight, the sight base and into the dovetail base. EVERYTHING depends on these two screws holding EVERYTHING down. I could NOT accept this design. NOTE: I was putting the dovetail base into the factory dovetail on a 3rd generation Glock, not an altered or unique weapon. I was NOT interested in staking, gluing or welding the dovetail base into the Glock. I don't believe you should have to.

If the torx screws work loose through recoil or just normal carry, the whole sight will move causing loss of the weapon's zero. Obviously you cannot locktite the screws in as they must be removed to take the sight off to change the battery. IF the dovetail base were solid to the slide, you could tighten the screws down and have some confidence that you still have a viable zero.

One other concern: As I had NOT installed the sight on the weapon, I held the sight at arms length to look at the triangular sight picture. It seemed to me that the triangle was hard to find. Problem is, unless you get a proper (and solid) firing grip on the weapon, in your holster as you start your draw stroke, you will spend a couple of nano-seconds searching for your red triangle. I suspect that a poor grip will make finding the sight difficult, not unlike a poor grip makes using the iron sights difficult. This is NEVER a good thing if you are in a self defense scenario. To be fair, this concern is based on holding the sight in my fingers at arms length, NOT installed on the weapon.

On the positive side. I did momentarily install a battery in the bottom of the sight so I could look at the triangle sight. The triangle was well defined, not a hazy nebulus dot as found on bargain basement red dot sights. Course, it should be well defined at this price!

Second, I was concerned that the 7.5 MOA triangle would appear too big, covering more of the target than I wanted. It did NOT seem to do so, appearing no larger than a 3 MOA I have on an Aimpoint or the CQ/T. In other words, just right!

Anyway, SORRY Leupold, I was hoping we were about to do great things together. For those interested, I will update this critique after we see how Amazon's return process works. I apologize that this is so long but this is an expensive purchase and thought you should know. Bye from North Idaho.










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